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Posted: Tue Apr 05 2016, 12:52am
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

So i passed by Bellmore again and the tower is definitely gone - I wonder if they are going to put up a new one or what...
Also i noticed that the sign now just says "National Grid" and not PSEG so maybe only the gas trucks will be out of that base?

I heard some type of beeps on 456.950 - it was just more so "beep" type tones not so much a data burst like i heard on the other freq...
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Posted: Mon Jun 13 2016, 03:45pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

The other day was the first time i got activity on 160.425 PL100.0
It sounded a bit low powered/distant - seems like it was more of a unit to unit type thing
160.425 is licensed for mobile use all across the island and bases mainly in Suffolk as well as Far Rockaway oddly enough...
WQUJ815 - Long Island Power Authority
KNEB740 - Long Island Power Authority
KNHH280 - Long Island Power Authority
WRY349 - Long Island Power Authority
KNEB738 - Long Island Power Authority

Attached is a recording of the data noises i hear on 467.750(the recording is actually from a different freq but its the same sound)...

dat.wav
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Posted: Thu Jun 16 2016, 01:40pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

I found out that those data noises are most likely some type of pager data
There is SDR software that you can get to decode such - but im pretty sure thats illegal...

This morning i picked up what sounded like a Motorola control channel on 938.175 which is part of the mysterious trunk system
896-901/935-940 MHz, Trunked License - WPUG698 - Long Island Power Authority

I have had those freqs in the radio for a while but this is the first time i picked up anything...


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Posted: Thu Jun 16 2016, 03:01pm
Posted by: Dave3825usPosts: 803
Old Display Name: Dave
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Pager decode is cool if you just want to see what it is being used for in the event you cant locate a license for a freq. I myself would not find any pleasure in seeing messages between people I do not know. If it was being used as a dispatch service, than that's a different story. But the freq would have to be limited to just 1 company.

I remember years ago when pagers were all over that those freqs for the larger pager companies were NONSTOP. You very rarely heard a break in between transmissions.. I still have my pagers somewhere.

I do not believe decoding it is against the law. A simple Google search for pager decode software. [link]
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Posted: Fri Jun 17 2016, 01:32am
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

Yeah i didnt think anyone used pagers anymore outside of firefighters/paramedics
"In the day" the beeper or pager would go off then we would run to the nearest payphone

It wouldnt suprise me if a company like PSEG is indeed using pagers
Picking up that control channel from the trunk system has intrigued me so i will probobly put the base freqs in as a Moto trunk system and see what happens...
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Posted: Tue Jul 12 2016, 12:28pm
Posted by: Orion3628Posts: 1
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Does National Grid in Eastern Suffolk County use a VHF Low Band frequency for dispatch purposes? Most of their trucks what appears to be a VHF Low Band antenna. Please provide the frequency if known?
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Posted: Tue Jul 12 2016, 01:23pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

Nat.Grid actually has a few low band freqs. that are licensed for state-wide use
KEC307 - National Grid USA Service Company Inc
But i never got any activity from them on lowband
Most of their stuff is in the 153-158mhz range
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Posted: Tue Sep 13 2016, 04:00pm
Posted by: Dave3825usPosts: 803
Old Display Name: Dave
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Found these posted today as new grants effective as of 09/07/2016 with a designator of 9K80D7W P25 Phase II fixed-end 2-slot TDMA (Harmonized Differential Quadrature Phase Shift Keyed modulation - H-DQPSK)


LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF267  http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=3846223
LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF273  http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=3846231
LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF276  
LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF266  
LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF272  
LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF275  
LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY   WQYF265  


Not sure if they are new or even active as they are all listed for the east end....
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Posted: Tue Sep 13 2016, 05:03pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

^ Very nice find

Yeah they did have a license for some other 900mhz trunk for a while but i never got any voice on it however i did pick up what sounded like a motorola CC at times - but it was only one site(i think)
Not sure if they are more or less just building out the system a bit more or what but it would be cool to see them go to a repeater or trunk system as the simplex system while it seems to be efficient it is dated and all i can say is since they took the bellmore tower down the coverage has been mediocre at best...

That aside a tower being taken down could mean some future plans so stay tuned
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Posted: Wed Sep 14 2016, 02:24pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 617
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

Heres a little further on this - [link]

Looks like it will most likely be P25 Phase 2
Nice

And it will definitely help for interop with New Jersey units because im pretty sure they are on 900mhz trunked as well

Sounds like it should be a robust system but do expect some rate hikes in the next few years folks

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