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Posted: Tue Aug 06 2019, 12:19pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 622
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

Picked up what is apparently a Con+ control channel on 151.5275 coming up as Network ID 138 with a CC 0
However i thought that DMR control channels cannot have a 0 CC ?
Also got what seems to be a rest channel on 151.9175 CC 3
Unsure if the 2 freqs are related



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Posted: Wed Aug 07 2019, 02:35am

Posted by: GTR8000Posts: 81
Joined: Fri Nov 25 2016, 07:07am

Color Code 0-15 is valid on any Con+ repeater, doesn't matter if it's control or traffic.

Con+ systems do not have rest channels.
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Posted: Wed Aug 07 2019, 12:11pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 622
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

Oh ok - then in that case 151.9175 is most likely not related

Also does anyone know what DMR network L13 is? I got a control channel for that on 451.325
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Posted: Wed Aug 07 2019, 05:05pm
Posted by: Dave3825usPosts: 812
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Darkstar350 wrote ...


Also does anyone know what DMR network L13 is? I got a control channel for that on 451.325




Lol, I was on 451.0875 which is Goosetown and it was displaying

2019/08/01 06:50:35 L13-1.3 neighbor: Site L13-2.5; CC=451.325

I sent my event log to GTR8000 and he said that 13 is default net id on many tiii systems. He said there seems to be 2 maybe 3 systems that have that id. Goosetown and Bear Mountain asre 2 of them. He is investigating.

Right now all I get is conventional spanish guys talking on 451.325 so the control channel is not out this way..



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Posted: Wed Aug 07 2019, 06:51pm

Posted by: GTR8000Posts: 81
Joined: Fri Nov 25 2016, 07:07am

Yes, unfortunately L13 is the default NetID for many Tier 3 systems, and it never gets changed. There appear to be a few L13 Tier 3 systems in the tri-state area that are unrelated to each other.

I was able to confirm the other day that Goosetown only has a few sites up as a pilot program, with basically no one actually using the system yet, and none of the frequencies Dave3825us sent me are related to Goosetown. Goosetown's system so far uses frequencies that are either in the 454 MHz block, or are T-Band 472/477/478 blocks.
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Posted: Wed Aug 14 2019, 01:32am
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 622
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

So i found Network 138
Its a con+ system out of Boston [link]

Must have been some great skip when i picked that up...
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Posted: Fri Aug 23 2019, 06:01pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 622
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

Encrypted DMR on 460.7625 CC 15 TG 70001 SL 1

I have close called DMR on this freq near Republic Airport - but the ENC activity i am picking up from home so not sure if its related
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Posted: Wed Sep 11 2019, 12:04pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 622
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

151.280 CC 12 TG 16700012 SL 1
463.7375 CC 10 TG 227510 SL 1
Both ENC

451.5125 CC 3 TG 500 SL 1 - Stuff about opening doors...
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Posted: Wed Sep 11 2019, 12:45pm
Posted by: Darkstar350Posts: 622
Joined: Mon Aug 18 2014, 10:57pm

I may have found 2 Connect plus systems

461.375 CC 2 Network 143
and
463.6625 CC 5 Network 267

Not sure if these are in the RRDB already or not but i did some searching around the tri state and whatnot but i did not see anything however the RR search does not work well for me...


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Posted: Wed Sep 11 2019, 03:17pm

Posted by: GTR8000Posts: 81
Joined: Fri Nov 25 2016, 07:07am

451.5125 CC 3 TG 500 SL 1 is Saint Joseph University Security in Philly

463.6625 CC 5 Network 267 is a system down in MD: [link]

As for 461.375 CC 2 Network 143, are you sure it wasn't Network 141? There's a site in MD for that system that matches the frequency/CC: [link]

Probably getting some tropo ducting from down there.

[ Edited Wed Sep 11 2019, 03:23pm ]
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