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Posted: Mon Oct 12 2015, 02:19am
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Is there a current list of what is and is not encrypted?
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The latest list I have is what I posted earlier today [link]

If anyone has any official list, I would *love* to see that.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17 2016, 05:03am
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I just listened to the audio from the chase on 1/13. At about 10AM you can hear NCPD 2/8. I am not finished listening to the entire incident. It seams like there is some kind of duel dispatching between NC and SC on the same band and it was picked up on the feed. Does anyone else have further insight?
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Posted: Sun Jan 17 2016, 05:21am
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paolom3 wrote ...

I just listened to the audio from the chase on 1/13. At about 10AM you can hear NCPD 2/8. I am not finished listening to the entire incident. It seams like there is some kind of duel dispatching between NC and SC on the same band and it was picked up on the feed. Does anyone else have further insight?


Are you saying you heard NCPD 2/8 on their old UHF frequency???
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Posted: Sun Jan 17 2016, 12:32pm

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NCPD 2/8 was patched into Suffolk PD 1st Precinct.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17 2016, 03:04pm
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Oh OK gotcha.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17 2016, 06:59pm
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w2lie wrote ...

NCPD 2/8 was patched into Suffolk PD 1st Precinct.


So what is the point of those joint ops frequencies? Was 2/8 basically just played over the air, or do they somehow get merged and able to actually communicate with each other?
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Posted: Sun Jan 17 2016, 07:44pm
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Another thing is when they do this NCPD loses their encryption until the situation is under enough control where they can stop the joint comms.

Makes you wonder what they really gain by encrypting when they give it up during a car chase, which is exactly the type of situation where you'd think encryption would be most applicable.
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The only Main reason for encryption is so "they" don't have to answer question about what is going on
If every day each member of this group put in a freedon of information request to get a recording of something (Time & Date)
That would be over 11,000 a day, at some point thay will turn most of it off to stop wasting there time[/b]
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Posted: Mon Jan 18 2016, 12:56am

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Don't forget, NCPD has access to the UTAC (UHF or 400Mhz) frequencies for Inter Op. Their radios and trunk system are UHF. Suffolk, on the other hand, has the 800 InterOp frequencies because they operate with 800Mhz radios.

There is the ability on the back end to patch in for mutual aid, but I assume that Suffolk has a radio for Nassau that they can just patch in. This will allow them back onto Nassau with Encryption, but that Encrypted radio will come over their frequency in the clear. The only way around keeping NCPD Encrypted would be for SCPD to have an encrypted frequency for them to interop on.

NCPD has an 800 I/O talk group, but that might be for their own EDACS system. Unfortunately I didn't have Unitrunker running this week, so I can't pull logs and see what groups might have been activated on 1/13.
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