Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Mar 01 2017, 06:39pm

I figure i start this thread where we can post any new/unconfirmed digital voice finds across the island be it MotoTRBO, Nexedge, P25 and the like...


151.520 NAC 271 "Im coming down with a front end loader on Route 107 for a load of rocks"

152.975 152.990 DMR possible bleed over from "Shomayah Services" trunk system [link]

451.0375 RAN 37 unknown

These may be part of a Cap+ system - [link] [link] [link]
451.500 CC 10
451.875 CC 7
461.100 CC 10
463.775 CC 10

452.850 Unknown digital/data noise possibly Tetra?...

453.3375 CC 1 Possible NY State D.O.T. [link]

462.125 CC 4 TG 5 SL 1 Possible radio techs or truckers - also GPS capable

Possible Cap+ system "Connetquot School District" [link]
462.450 CC 1
464.6375 CC 3

464.5875 CC 1 and CC 10 Unconfirmed possible Cablevision or Delta Airlines [link] [link]

464.600 RAN 25 TG 2501 Unconfirmed possibly related to Suffolk Transportation [link]

464.45625 RAN 25(no TG) Most likely Suffolk Transportation non-trunked [link]

464.650 CC 9 TG 200 SL 1 Unknown possibly Telmobile repeaters [link]

464.850 CC 7 Possible Cablevision [link]

472.4625 NAC 196 Encrypted possible Plainview repeater "Tole LLC" [link]

502.2625 CC 1 Unknown/No voice most likely distant but licensed to "MIC Talk Inc" in Mineola [link]























Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
rantsradio, Wed Mar 15 2017, 05:40pm

462.125 CC 4 TG 5 SL 1 Possible radio techs or truckers - also GPS capable
Is actually a private repeater group, no license required.
http://crnet.net/radio

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Mar 15 2017, 08:46pm

Getting strong hits on 462.125 here in East Islip. Been watching for 30 minutes and no tg yet.

Not debating license requirements, but Crnet does indeed have a digital license here [link]

464.6 I have as KCC533 unknown site 1 cc1 no tg as of yet

453.3375 on Dot license reflect 2 watts and no digital. I have recorded unknown dmr on that freq, just not sure who it is.

Possible Cap+ system "Connetquot School District" [link]
462.450 CC 1
464.6375 CC 3

Yes, there are 2 other freqs with that . Not sure if its multisite or not.
464.962500 2 Color Code 1
463.837500 0 Color Code 2

464.45625 RAN 25(no TG) Most likely Suffolk Transportation non-trunked
I have that listed as possible WQTV251 But I get it as NEXEDGE ran 25

464.650 CC 9 TG 200 SL 1 Unknown possibly Telmobile repeaters [link]
I have this as NJ Hatzolah EMS cc9




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Mar 16 2017, 07:47pm



Intresting - thank you

So the P25 151.520 NAC 271 is apparently some type of public works/snow plow operations
It was active during the storm - exactly where its coming from i cant say for sure...

Heres some more finds -

153.510/5125 DMR CC 7 Unknown - This will pick up on a scanner anywhere from 153.500 - 153.5125 but the actual frequency is closer to 153.510

451.7125 DMR CC 5 unknown low power or distant

452.8625 DMR CC 7 TG 1681001 Building maintenance or possible LIRR maintenance [link]

452.8875 DMR CC3 unknown low powered/distant

461.025 DMR CC 7 TG 1000 SL 1 Unknown

461.400 462.100 DMR CC 14 TG 200 Most likely the Village of Farmingdale [link] (im just not sure if this is actually a Cap+ system or just some type of simulcast...)

463.500 NXDN RAN 5 TG 1 Possible Bethpage Schools [link] "boiler rooms/ parking lots" ,etc...

463.600 DMR CC 10 unknown


If anyone is wondering i pick most of this stuff up with either a discone or ST2 antenna outside about 20 or 25 feet in the air or a indoor telescoping antenna in Nassau south shore...







Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
rantsradio, Thu Mar 16 2017, 08:11pm

[quote]
Getting strong hits on 462.125 here in East Islip. Been watching for 30 minutes and no tg yet.

Not debating license requirements, but Crnet does indeed have a digital license here [link]

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Meaning you can join their repeater, no license required you operate under theirs. I know they have a license.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Mar 17 2017, 01:47am

Took the scanner to NYC today.


452.8625 DMR CC 7 TG 1681001 Building maintenance or possible LIRR maintenance

I got dmr on this freq. The license for lirr you referenced references NXDN as the emission designator so I do not believe its lirr. If there can be more than one color code for a freq I would bet its St. John's University NYC CC 12 TG 1 SL * WQJC219 [link]


On either 452.9125 or 452.8625, I heard USCG announce to all mariners there was a possible jumper on the Brooklyn Bridge. Both freqs come back to Lirr . One of them is listed as Mta Pd


461.400 462.100 DMR CC 14 TG 200 Most likely the Village of Farmingdale [link] (im just not sure if this is actually a Cap+ system or just some type of simulcast...)

The link you posted is South Farmingdale water district. Not Farmingdale village. It was announced here as dmr but may be a system. I will check next time I am in East Farmingdale.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Mar 17 2017, 04:46pm

The P25 151.520 NAC 271 has been confirmed
Its a public works dept. somewhere in CT [link]

As far as the Farmingdale thing - im pretty sure its a Cap+ system just those 2 freqs being used so far...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Mar 26 2017, 01:32pm

451.040/451.050 NXDN NID 50 RAN 19 unknown (nexedge narrow freq- receives on scanner closer to 451.05 receives on SDR closer to 451.04)

451.325 NXDN RAN 10 Unknown possible Merrick schools [link]

453.0125 P25 NAC 293 Unknown

462.050 (NXDN narrow freq receives on scanner as 462.05 SDR closer to 462.057) NID 50 RAN 1

462.1125 DMR CC 7 CC 11 unknown possible Cablevision [link]

464.475 DMR CC 11 TG 9920 SL 1 unknown

464.575 DMR CC 10 unknown

477.9875 DMR CC 1
478.1375 CC 1
478.6375 CC 1
(These seem to be part of the same Cap+ system but the only licenses for these freqs in New york expired or otherwise come back to "Lans Service" but the licenses do not reflect digital [link] [link] )...








Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Aug 15 2017, 07:59pm

So the Nexedge NID 50 is a system known as "Fleetcall"(somewhat a Nexedge answer to Onevoice) on the air in areas like New Jersey and Pennsylvania [link]

Its been a little while but digital is still on the increase in the area
I dont yet have a DMR or Nexedge capable scanner so i still use SDR/DSD
If i only put down a CC and no talkgroup that means i either got a distant or no decode on the voice and or it may be just a CC data burst or control channel -

451.8125 CC 5

451.9625 CC 12
463.5375 CC 13 TG 500 - Recently ive noticed that Long Beach public works has gone silent on their 155mhz frequency
I just happend to be scanning around and noticed that these 2 freqs seem to be part of a 2 site DMR system in Long Beach WPMN366 [link]
Its licensed to the school district but im not sure if this system is being used by the schools, public works or both so i just submitted it to the RRDB as "Long beach city services"
Im pretty sure one of the other freqs from that license is still being used by the schools on analog

452.0625 CC 9

452.1875 CC 14

453.850 CC 6 460.300 CC 3 TG 7200 - Not sure what this is but it seems to be part of the same system
It may be encrypted also or i could just be getting a bad decode possibly the Town of Smithtown? WQSE878 [link]

462.225 CC 13

462.300 CC 1

463.650 RAN 10 - This seems to be a bus or ambulette company and it is licensed to We Transport [link] but im not sure if its part of that Nexedge system and it is also licensed to some private radio company out of Brooklyn "Pocket Voice Communications" WPEI223 [link] which im thinking that may be it because some of the radio ID's have the alias "Bronx Base" and i dont think We Transport has a base in the bronx...








Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Tue Aug 15 2017, 11:20pm

Couple thing I noticed,,,

WPMN366 license does not reflect trunking or digital. I also don't think lifeguards would share school freqs. Smithtown does have a trunked license here [link]

453.850 is 1 watt and If you're picking that up out in Nassau, then you have a better set up than me, a lot closer to Smithtown. Lol

Last thought,

The bands have been wide open and I have logged conventional stuff as far as Maryland, New Jersey, Rhode Island and of course, Connecticut . I am running an amp with nmo mounted antennas inside an East facing apartment. As of right now, I do not have a variable output power supply to lower the gain on that thing. I do have this, [link] and dont want to commit it to the amp so I need a mating connector, like whats on the side of a 396 / 33t uniden scanner..

Point is it is very easy to pick up stuff from far away the last week .


Trunked systems that I was getting in unitrunker were,


Motorola 2E16 MTA Regional Bus
Motorola C820 DoITT (UHF)
APCOP25 580A0-00B Joint National Capital Region
APCOP25 BEE00-56F Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst
APCOP25 BEE00-14C United States Department of Defense (14C)
APCOP25 BEE00-39A New Jersey (NJICS)


All from an amped up indoor antenna, and wide open bands.


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Aug 15 2017, 11:57pm

The Long Beach DMR system TG 500 is definitely used by Long Beach public works at least some of the time this i have confirmed however a better time to confirm snow plow / DPW type agencies is during a storm and whatnot
I know the license is not licensed for DMR or trunking but i have found licenses can be inaccurate at times either that or the agencies simply "do what they want" regardless of what the license says OR they may not even realize/havent updated the license since the changes...

The Smithtown 453.850 is intresting
It looks like the repeater is indeed licensed for 1 watt
However what would usually be the repeater input(458.850) is licensed for 45 watts
Again this definitely looks like a mistake on the license

Also it looks like a couple school districts have recently got some new Nexedge licenses
West Hempstead [link] as well as Plainview/Old Bethpage [link]





Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Aug 16 2017, 12:40am

Does seem weird that the inputs are higher than the outputs. The fcc is full of many errors. Listen, as soon as I get a moment, I will plug the smithtown freqs into my scanner and see what transpires.


Yeah, its a free for all. Town of Islip is running dmr cap plus on their freqs that are licensed as conventional.


And don't forget new Drm licenses for schools.

Cambria WPUL495 Bethpage
Carle Place School District WQZS668
CHAMINADE HIGH SCHOOL WQTJ750 MINEOLA
FREEPORT PUBLIC SCHOOLS WQZT487 Freeport
KELLENBERG MEMORIAL HIGH SCHOOL WQZH403 UNIONDALE
Lawrence Union Free School District WQYA486 Lawrence




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
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Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Aug 16 2017, 10:44am

Lawrence schools DMR freq i confirmed its in the RRDB - not to sure about the other schools and what is "Cambria" ?

It does seem that on the Smithtown license they may have mixed up the repeater input and output power levels - but i cant even see how even a repeater input/mobile/portable radio could be only 1 watt most of the time they are at least around 5 watts...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sat Jan 13 2018, 02:35pm

151.895 NAC 732 Encrypted

155.055 CC 8 TG 10001 SL 1 - This was active during the blizzard i didnt get a good decode but it may be Long Beach snow plows [link]

451.425 CC 1 TG 1011 SL1 I confirmed this is the Cedar Creek water plant in wantagh it was run by Nassau County for years but i think they may have privatized it now not sure the name of that company but the freq is licensed under Goosetown [link]

451.7125 This may be used by Westbury schools i get a strong DMR signal in that area [link]

452.125 DMR This may be used by Kellenberg school [link] i get a strong signal nearby that area as well but i didnt have anything to decode DMR

452.4875 DMR not sure where this could be coming from but i only got hits on this going more north in Nassau could be either one of these - [link] [link] I actually get the stronger signal closer to the East Williston schools

461.65625 RAN 4 Most likely Plainview schools [link]

462.225 CC 13 TG 456669 & TG 63453 SL 1 Encrypted




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
w2lie, Sun Jan 14 2018, 03:20pm

Nice Job finding Cedar Creek Plant. They had a few TG's on the county EDACS system and I know they moved once they were sold by the county.

I would love to find where NICE went. They too have been moved off of the EDACS system once the county sold them off.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Jan 14 2018, 04:30pm

Yeah they must have been using the DMR freq for at least a year because i think it was about a year ago or so they disappeared from the EDACS system
I just happend to be searching around for random frequencies and stumbled across the Goosetown license
Makes me wonder if the county will get or already have a contract with Goosetown which is one of the companys who run Onevoice then again that wouldnt really matter if its a private company who is now running Cedar Creek

The NICE Buses im really not sure of
Theres some buses on Onevoice as well as the Nexedge system which seem to be school buses but with buses its not always clear if their school buses, or transit or both
Also it appears theres a freq for the Bay Park plant as well but i havent confirmed anything for that yet



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
davidradio, Mon May 14 2018, 04:42am

462.125 CC 4 TG 5 SL 1 Possible radio hs or truckers

I'm intresting - thank you

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon May 14 2018, 12:16pm

462.125 CC 4 TG 5 Slot 1 is apparently a commercial repeater owned by a company called "CRNET"
WQYW589 [link]
As far as who uses this freq im not exactly sure - it is a bit active and there seems to be somewhat of a radio club on there at times


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Mon May 14 2018, 11:05pm

I posted about this here, [link]

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue May 15 2018, 12:57am

I have a PSR800 that i should get the DMR upgrade
Apparently Whistler will do it if you mail it in i just need to find out if i have to back up the SD card and whatnot first
Also i think one of the new Uniden scanners actually has a NXDN upgrade for it

There appears to be a new site for the L.I Radio Nexedge system
The control channel is 462.5375 RAN 4
I receive this on the south shore of Nassau with not very strong strength, yet not very weak strength so its hard for me to pinpoint where this is coming from and I have heard people from Jersey can pick this up
What im not sure of if its actually a simulcast site being that this particular frequency is licensed at multiple sites in Suffolk , Nassau , NYC as well as New Jersey




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed May 23 2018, 01:22am

463.4625 CC5 - This seems to be part of a Cap+ system(multiple TG coming up at the same time, etc)
The best i could come up with is Patchogue/Medford schools [link] it is licensed for DMR

472.9625 DMR - Possible town of Babylon WQEL835 [link]
Its in the RRDB as analog with PL 136.5 but all im getting is DMR on this freq i havent decoded a CC or anything yet
The license does reflect DMR trunked


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed May 23 2018, 01:01pm

I will have to check but did confirm Patchogue school using a dmr freq a few weeks ago.. Have not heard voice yet today but see cc 5 being displayed..

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu May 24 2018, 01:00am

Try the other freqs on the Patchogue license to see if they seem to be affiliated with 463.4625
Or if it shows a network ID
I didnt get a network ID on that freq but im pretty sure not all Cap+ systems will show the ID
Im not sure but actually i think its just the "Connect Plus" systems that show the network id

I got DMR close call hits in Westbury
The freqs were either 153.505 or 153.510 neither of which are valid frequencies
Or there just happens to be no active licenses in the entire country

I recently got P25 on 155.640(i forget the NAC at the moment i will check if i have it written down) which seemed to be some sort of electric company

462.1125 463.6625 464.5875 I have got DMR on all 3 of those frequencies at one time or another in the past and they are all licensed to Cablevision [link] but i havent confirmed anything yet
However in the vicinity near the Cablevision HQ in Bethpage those freqs have a strong DMR signal and they all seem to simulcast each other when in that area so it may be some sort of low power system for just around the property...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Nawton!, Thu May 24 2018, 01:11am

Re 155.64: If the NAC is 840, you may be hearing New Canaan (CT) PD.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Jun 19 2018, 04:32pm



Yes that was the NAC
Intresting because at the time it didnt sound like a PD
Sounded more like some type of electrical work
Maybe radio techs working on the system or possibly a electric company interoping with the PD?..

As for 472.9625 i got CC 5 TG 1000 which is encrypted



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Nov 19 2018, 05:30pm

Seems like school districts want to go digital if they havent already

463.375 CC 11 TG 1 SL 1 - Most likely Freeport schools WQYR956 [link]

Ive also been trying some freqs that look like they could be for Bethpage schools [link] and West Hempstead schools also has a Nexedge license [link] but i havent got any activity on either of those yet...




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Nov 20 2018, 01:37pm

Looks like Levittown schools added digital emissions to their freqs [link]

Also Glen Cove now has a 800mhz DMR freq licensed [link]


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Nov 27 2018, 05:31pm

Actually the 463.375 along with 463.7875 and 464.5875 seems to be part of a Cap+ system used by Freeport schools [link]
All 3 freqs have CC 11 and Slot 1



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Tue Nov 27 2018, 08:43pm

I am in East Islip and keep getting distant nxdn 48 bursts. 464.025. None have been long enough to give any clues. Can you guys out in nassau give a try?

Thanks

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Nov 27 2018, 10:33pm

464.025 seems like a popular freq- but the only license i could find in the state licensed for nxdn is Smithtown schools [link]
Its licensed for 100 watts but you said it sounded distant so they could be using it on lower power or simplex - if it is indeed them
I will see if i catch anything...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Dec 10 2018, 11:31pm

Havent got anything on 464.025 yet

463.2875 RAN 10 sounded like school type chatter - most likely Jericho schools [link]

I also found that Lynbrook schools have recently got a Nexedge license [link]

472.9625 CC 5 TG 1000 SL 1 Encrypted - i would guess this has something to do with the Town of Babylon WQEL835 [link]
I heard a rumor they were abandoning their 800mhz system and switching to a DMR system
I will check if this is part of a trunk system with the other freqs


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Jan 02 2019, 06:48pm

Still nothing on 464.025

452.0625 CC 9 TG 22511 TG 22512 TG 22513 SL 1 I get a somewhat weak signal on this so the decode is not the best but im thinking this may be part of a trunk system due to the multiple TGs coming up

452.8875 CC 3 TG 111 SL 1 Somewhat weak signal in Nassau - seems to be some type of building maintenance and or security

461.4625 CC 0 TG 2 SL 1 Not sure what this is possibly some type of delivery company? It stands out to me due to the 0 CC

461.275 CC 13 TG 200 SL 1 Seemed to be hospital type comms - perhaps Mount Sinai? [link]

464.75625 RAN 8 Most likely Lynbrook schools maintenance [link] sounded like work being done on bathrooms, etc

The following freqs i get a rather weak signal on so the only thing that will decode is the CC but perhaps someone in suffolk or other locations may want to try these
461.2875 CC 3
461.4375 CC 15
463.4875 CC 15
463.600 CC 10




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Jan 06 2019, 05:13pm

The other day i got some activity on 464.025 - but it seemed to be distant/low power analog with DPL 074

Town of Babylon seem to be using a DMR system
453.950
460.200
472.9625
All with CC 5
So far any TG on there seem to be encrypted
471.800 is another freq part of their license - but does not seem to be DMR and is actually the only freq on the license with no DMR emission

I get NXDN activity on 463.350 but it seems to be distant/does not decode

463.9375 CC 1 TG 1022 SL 2 - this decodes but its a bit garbled/ low powered so i cant really tell what the activity is

464.875 CC 1 TG 2000 SL 1 This may be Levittown schools now using DMR





Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Nawton!, Tue Jan 08 2019, 10:27pm


This should be Source Mall maintenance. (It's mostly in Spanish, so I can't say for sure.)

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Jan 09 2019, 12:51am

I have a moxon set facing to my west, towards nass and nyc. 464.1125 I am getting nxdn bursts displaying nexedge 48 CB. Did not see anything useful in the db. Anyone out there in Nassau able to get anything?



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Jan 09 2019, 04:33am

464.1125 seems to be mainly a wireless mic type freq licensed to fast food places [link] [link]

Aside from that the only thing i found licensed for NXDN is some type of community watch group out of Far Rockaway [link]





Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Jan 09 2019, 12:55pm

Lots, I mean Lots of McDonalds... The link you posted, they output 150 watts and list NXDN, and they also list MOTOTRBO. But I am hearing Nxdn bursts. It moslikly is them. I will see if I can increase my reach a tiny more...

I am working on setting up a remote sdr in East Farmingdale.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Jan 11 2019, 05:07pm

So i am definitely getting the periodic(about every 5 seconds or so) NXDN bursts on 464.1125 - decent power as well
However the bursts are so quick that it does not decode
This is unusual for a NXDN system - more of a characteristic of a DMR system
NXDN systems usually use either voice channels or control channels which may alternate from day to day as well

Other wise i have been getting DMR bursts on 464.750 CC 10 seemingly part of a Cap+ system(this freq is also part of the We Transport nexedge system)

152.960 CC 9 somewhat distant DMR

463.43125 RAN 4 "TECH-SUPP" aliases

I also have been getting very distant or low powered DMR on 478.2875
Its definitely DMR but the signal is so weak that even the CC does not decode
I have not found a license in the entire Tri-state with that freq licensed for DMR...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Jan 11 2019, 06:00pm

464.75000 CC 10 TG * SL * WQME843 Operations F2 (Alt Dispatch) Hatzolah EMS (Jersey Shore Chapter) Local Fire/EMS Monmouth NJ

Do you get any voice? Not sure if this could be it or not..

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Jan 11 2019, 06:05pm

I havent got any voice yet but i see it is in the RRDB
Just cc/data bursts about every 10-15 seconds so far
I dont understand why someone would submit that with no confirmed TG or slot however...

As for 478.2875 i did a bit more in depth searching and i havent found anything licensed for DMR in the entire country...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Jan 11 2019, 08:05pm

I got activity on 464.1125
It was encrypted NXDN RAN 17 TG 10101
Aliases "RN-28 RN-50 RN-51 RN-114"

It could very well be the community watch thing - the phone number on that license comes back to "Rockaway Nassau Safety Patrol" [link]
I would guesstimate despite being encrypted that the "RN" alias could stand for "Rockaway Nassau"...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Jan 11 2019, 08:48pm

Very interesting. Guess even the neighborhood watch does not want to be heard.

As for 478.2875, try looking up that freq in Massachusetts. Looked at the vhf propagation map and that showed Nassau to Massachusetts. I know its a Uhf freq, but did not find a UHf map yet..

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
ipfd320, Sun Jan 13 2019, 01:46pm

I Found and Use this Map from

William Hepburn's
Worldwide--Tropospheric Ducting Forecast

6 DAY FORECAST OF VHF, UHF & MICROWAVE RADIO & TV SIGNAL STRENGTH & INTERFERENCE

Here is His Link--> [link]

In The Left Upper Corner Below the MAIN Heading You Need to Pick the Region You Want

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Sun Jan 13 2019, 08:22pm

I used to use this one but I think it's just VHf. I am not really sure.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Jan 14 2019, 01:31am

I searched again - nothing licensed for DMR on 478.2875 in the whole country
Even expired
So whoever is using this freq is not properly licensed for the DMR emission which is not uncommon...




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Jan 14 2019, 11:09pm

Found another school Nexedge license [link]
WRBX834 Plainedge


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Feb 18 2019, 01:58am

In Suffolk the other day i got NXDN bursts on 464.025
Just a quick burst every 10-15 seconds or so
Most likely could be Smithtown schools [link]

I did not have the SDR with me at the time however

I also was getting a strong DMR signal on 461.200 in that area
I did not yet find any relevant license for 461.200 in suffolk...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Mon Feb 18 2019, 03:49pm

461.200 is my sdr research group. I caught cc1 slot 2 encrypted. Where in Suffolk did you get this hit?





464.025 is in that research group as well. I was gettin nxdn too.

WQXQ577 POSILLICO new grant 7K60FXW (Nassau and suffolk)
WPTV311 - FORDHAM UNIVERSITY 7K60FXE, 7K60FXD (not in suffolk)

But they are not listed as nxdn.

The WQSU246 link you posted does reflect nxdn but it lists it as conventional. I am not sure if conventional nxdn uses bursts or not. I will spin my moxon to the North next week when schools open again.


I might try looking in a little bit when dsdplus is free. Right now, I have dsd running on United States Air Force (3D6)
Running it on the Sheppard Air Force Base site located in Wichita, TX.

I am in East Islip..

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Feb 18 2019, 07:17pm

NXDN conventional repeaters may use periodic bursts much like conventional DMR repeaters
Trunked would use a dedicated control channel which is a constant burst

I was in Brentwood when i got those hits so 461.200 could be Pilgrim but they dont have the DMR emission on the license


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Feb 22 2019, 06:06pm

I finally got a TG on 452.1875 CC 14 - TG 1 SL 1 (it still was garbled so i could not quite hear what was being said)
I also get CC 3 on this freq with no TG but it seems to be even more distant

I have been getting 452.4125 CC 4 a bit - only the CC so far no voice...

462.5375 RAN 4 Is definitely Nexedge system 246 but i am not sure where its coming from
Its licensed for sites in Suffolk, Upstate NY and New Jersey
Going by the signal strength i would guess its coming from either upstate or jersey

Also has anyone here tried the "Shomaya Services" DMR system yet? Its a Cap+ system out of NYC
The freqs are:
152.9825
153.0125
153.0425
153.0725
153.1025

Its quite busy and me not yet having a DMR scanner i cant properly monitor it with the several TG transmitting at the same time
But i have got TG 22 and TG 42 as school buses and TG 34 possibly being a taxi
Theres also TG 36 TG 43 TG 44 just to name a few which i havent figured out yet
Private call is also used a bit on this system


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Feb 22 2019, 07:23pm

Found a rest channel 462.4500 cc1. I have WQMA924 (conventional) and pinelawn power on that in my notes.. Can cap+ conventional have a rest channel? No Right? SOrry No coffee yet today..

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
GTR8000, Fri Feb 22 2019, 11:27pm



246 is the NetID of the Nassau Suffolk Communications NEXEDGE 4800 system:

[link]

The RAN almost always matches the Site ID with these NXDN systems, so you've likely discovered Site 4.

Unfortunately, 462.5375 is licensed at six different sites under WQTT591, so that's no help in pinpointing it.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Sat Feb 23 2019, 01:17am



Have the Moxon facing west from E Islip. I can see it. Dsd sees it, but not enough to display the network id that we now now would be 246.4. Like GTR8000 said, its listed at all 6 sites.

@ Darkstar, how strong of a signal are you getting? And is your antenna directional or omnidirectional?.

1 private call and 1 group call. Both say channel 27...

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sat Feb 23 2019, 04:01am

On 462.5375 with indoor antenna DSD will just about decode the RAN
With the outdoor Diamond Discone it decodes the RAN, site neighbors etc but still just about 2-3 bars
This is about average strength of NJ or Upstate freqs for me which is what would lead me to guess either of those locations...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Sat Feb 23 2019, 02:32pm

I will be going out east during the week and will bring laptop and see if its Sag Harbor. My reach was pretty much Nassau but now with the Moxon, I can receive strong signals form Jersey.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Mon Feb 25 2019, 04:18pm

@darkstar Dmr on 463.6875 cc2 tg activity on tg 10004 enc. Do you receive this freq at all?

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Feb 25 2019, 10:48pm



I will try that one but if i had to guess it may be part of the Delta Airlines DMR system [link]

Also about Nexedge 246 - that system is not very active outside of the tow trucks/car parts, school buses and the snow plows during storms but there are a few unconfirmed talk groups that may be of interest to those with better digital capability than me -
TG 1 - Havent heard much on this to confirm anything but aliases are "Base" and mobile units seem to be "R#xx"
TG 13 - something about making deliveries
TG 35 - not sure what this is something about opening gates i also heard them discussing traffic signals being out etc
TG 45 This is buses but im not sure if its school buses or some type of other transport company because they seem to be active even when school is out




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Feb 26 2019, 10:08am



I have that along with 464.6375 CC 3 in my notes as possibly being part of a cap+ system Connetquot school dist [link]


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Tue Feb 26 2019, 07:22pm

I will have to physically check this one out. The license lists conventional freqs. I receive cap+ on these and did hear school related stuff a few months ago.

7K60FXE 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA voice
7K60FXD 2-slot DMR (Motorola MOTOTRBO) TDMA data

The only listed control point is Lidge Dr S of Willow Farmingville, NY SUFFOLK County.

464.9625 strong signal
464.6375 strong signal
464.8375 strong signal


My dsdplus must be screwed up cause it passes audio to the voice side of dsd on P25 and Con+ systems, but with this cap+, its not. It shows calls in the control side, and no activity in the voice side. P25 and con+ systems work as expected.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Mar 06 2019, 02:30am

So now i am getting DMR bursts on 461.200 CC8 at home in nassau
No voice yet

Still getting the Nexedge on 463.350 but now something unusual happened
It decoded the TG but not the RAN? I got TG 1 with RID 46
This freq seems to be somewhat active at any given time during the day or nite
Also just today i got a weak DMR signal on 463.350 with CC 1 which is a first...

478.2875 is still a mystery but i am also thinking it may be an "image"
I get morse code on this freq as well so i am trying to get a recording of it to see if i or someone else can decode the callsign at least...




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Mar 06 2019, 02:49pm

I now have a TG for 452.1875 CC3 - TG 3 SL 2
Still too weak for anything coherent

The RAN im getting for 463.350 is RAN 1 TG 1 but again too weak to hear anything

On 461.200 CC 8 i am getting weak voice now
It comes up as regular DMR when its just the bursts but when the voice starts it registers as "XPT"

I got Cap+ on 463.8375 CC 2
TG 100 seems to be school buses
I would guess this is Connetquot as it seems there are other Cap+ freqs to do with that..



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Mar 12 2019, 01:21am

Recently ive been getting periodic activity on some 700mhz P25 freqs -
769.24375
769.74375
770.24375
770.99375

Seemed to be testing of sorts and these freqs are all nationwide interop freqs
The only license i could find in new york was for NYC [link]

I see some of you have seemed to start mapping out the Smithtown DMR system on RR
453.850 and 460.225 but has anyone tryed 453.1875? I seem to have that down as having heard DMR on there at some point it may be part of the same system [link]


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Tue Mar 12 2019, 02:44am

I am seeing some key ups on 770 24375 P25 but no nac yet. My airspy would be better but it's tied up on something else. Going to watch them in sdr for a while.

453.1875 is part of smithtown. The license indicates 3 control points. NESCONSET FORT SALONGA and KINGS PARK. 453.1875 is KINGS PARK

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Tue Mar 12 2019, 11:25am

So I left those 700 freqs scanning overnight and all I got was the nac of 293.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
GTR8000, Tue Mar 12 2019, 12:43pm



Which is the standard NAC used on the 700 MHz nationwide interop frequencies, so no surprise there.

769.24375 - 7CALL50
769.74375 - 7TAC55
770.24375 - 7TAC56
770.99375 - 7GTAC57

Per the New York Statewide 700MHz Public Safety National Interoperability Channel Plan, NYC is assigned the following:

Primary
7TAC51

Secondary
7TAC71

Additional
7TAC55
7TAC56
7GTAC57
7GTAC77

Probably not coincidence that you're detecting activity on three of NYC's additionally assigned 7TAC channels.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Mar 12 2019, 09:27pm

Attached is the recording of the morse code i get on 478.2875 which i think translates to WPEE681 which comes back to "Airsite Communications" in Brooklyn [link]
Apparently they are a Motorola dealer so would be no coincidence if they are using Trbo [link]
Despite not having the emission it seems they are also in the process of switching over the DMR emission on another one of their licenses [link] so that would suggest this conclusion as well
But i suppose i cant quite say for sure if the DMR i get on 478.2875 and the callsign id are related

If i am indeed receiving this repeater then it is a horrible quality or low power for being in Brooklyn however i seem to receive the ID clearer than the DMR...

4782875.wma

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Mar 14 2019, 12:30am

Ive been getting a bit of DMR activity on 464.425 CC 1 TG 4000 SL 1 - didnt hear enough to confirm anything
But there are several licenses in the NYC/LI area for this freq with DMR emissions ...




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Mar 15 2019, 11:51am

463.475 CC 14 TG 300 SL 1 - this may be something to do with the Coliseum [link]
Seems to be active during events there which is what got me thinking but havent heard anything conclusive yet



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Mar 15 2019, 01:52pm

Do you get anything on any of these in addition to 463.475? Even tho license says conventional, it could be trunked.



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Mar 15 2019, 02:03pm

I have got weak DMR on 461.05 and 462.175 - but dosent seem to be related to 463.475






Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Mar 15 2019, 05:18pm

The license does indicate 2 antennas and some freqs are 35 watts and others are 15. How ever you picking up 1 of each. Maybe the wattage has to do with the location of the antennas inside the arena. I had my scanner there at the last Islander game I wen to but did not do any scanning. We got out late and my son was falling asleep..

461.050 35.000
461.475 15.000
462.175 15.000
463.4375 35.000
463.4750 15.000
464.8625 35.000

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Mar 15 2019, 08:20pm

The power actually dosent quite make much sense - output 35 but only 18 effective?
462.175 is also licensed for DMR to the Valley stream school district [link]
I have 462.175 down with CC of 5 but as being a very weak signal so it may have been a error/false hit
I am closer to the coliseum than valley stream so the weak signal could be the schools however its hard to say especially if these are those "in building repeaters"
I get a decent signal on analog 462.175 PL 67.0 seems to be some type of facility maintenance - i think possibly Westfield/Sunrise mall maintenance? [link]
Looking at the map there dosent seem to be any significant antennas atop the coliseum [link]


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Mar 24 2019, 11:02pm

Found what seems to be a cap+ rest channel on 461.4875 CC 5
Its a bit weak so could be coming from out of state

On 463.475 i have been getting weak analog with DPL 565 coincidentally during the same times i get the DMR
Here are some licenses i found in NYC and on LI for 463.475 DMR (aside from the coliseum) -
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
First time ive seen DMR emissions on 72mhz paging freqs for Estee Lauder in Melville...







Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Mon Mar 25 2019, 12:12am

The 72mhz show 20K0F1D and the uhf show 7K60FXD, 7K60FXE . I know someone who works there, gonna try to get him to bring a radio out if I get the chance..

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Mar 25 2019, 12:03pm



Ah my mistake - i must have read it wrong
I would have just passed it off as a glitch anyway

And despite the multiple licenses for 463.475 i seem to consistently get the same DMR CC 14 TG 300 SL 1
With about moderate strength
So far i have heard only very short transmissions such as 10-4 or "copy that" here and there etc ...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Apr 04 2019, 03:28pm

461.200 CC 1 TG 50 SL 1
As well as CC 1 TG 51 SL 2
Both of them encrypted


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Thu Apr 04 2019, 07:56pm

I have 461.0 as being cc1 slot 2 encrypted as well . Have 3 dongles watching Suffolk and have not been scanning with sdr much. Trying to fix up my truck, get my son back to fishing, ya da ya da yada . The to do list never ends...

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Apr 11 2019, 01:15pm

160.1775 DMR CC 1
Possible - [link]
Also licensed to MTA with NXDN emission out of Westchester [link]

Im thinking 461.4875 CC 5 and 463.2125 CC 0 may be part of a cap+ system going by the signal strength/burst timing

Getting what seems to be a cap+ rest channel on 464.7375 CC 9

Still not exactly sure what 463.475 CC 14 TG 300 SL 1 is - but the more i hear on there seems to be loading dock operations getting deliveries from UPS ,etc

464.875 CC 1 is school buses and TG 2000 SL 1 seems to be the "actual" TG
However it seems to simultaneously transmit another TG as well as a private call at the same time
Not sure if this is something to do with my config or theirs but i havent seen something like this before




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Apr 11 2019, 03:25pm



Im getting this also TG 10001 SL 1 and TG 10006 SL 2 - both TG encrypted as well
Decent signal
A few possibilities here - [link] [link] [link]
It is also part of the Delta airlines system [link] but according to the RRDB it has a 7 CC on that system

452.8875 CC 3 TG 111 SL 1 seems to be some type of building security
I get a OK signal from home but a strong signal on Jericho tpke jericho
Still havent found any relevant licenses




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Apr 14 2019, 01:41pm

Anyone in Suffolk get -
464.475 CC 11 TG 9920 SL 1
and
464.525 CC 10 TG 9918 SL 2 ?

Judging by the similar TG # im thinking these may be related - possibly something to do with Newsday? [link]

Not sure what 464.525 is but the 464.475 TG 9920 seems to be possibly building maintenance talking about cleaning cafeterias etc...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Sun Apr 14 2019, 03:00pm

Not sure of slot or cc but 464.475 and 464.525 were 2 Newsday freqs. The first one was used by the production dept (pressroom, collating and plateroom) and the second was used by transportation. Newsday is no longer producing any papers anymore. All being done by the Times.

I know a few people that are still there and all the press equipment and collating equipment are being removed and other things like the many Quipp Stackers, Dynaric Strapping Machines, pallet lifts, hi lo's, worksavers, jogging tables and the robots, well that stuff was being auctioned off maybe a month ago.

Going to have a listen during the week. Outside company was handling the scrap removal and another company was handling the auction. Things may have changed since I left in 2009 but the pressroom, collating and transportation were the primary users of the radios.Building maint and security used radios also.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Apr 14 2019, 08:58pm

Thanks for the info Dave
Being that Newsday and Cable/Optimum are subsidiaries i wonder if it could be cable who is using the Newsday freqs
I have a few of the mobile news freqs down as possibly being used by cable on analog
They also possibly have a simulcast Cap+ system out of their Bethpage office [link]
462.1125 CC 7
464.5875 CC 10
463.6625 may also be a part of this but i cant find where i have a CC wrote down
Strong DMR signal on all 3 freqs near bethpage

Here are a few other unconfirmed cap+ systems -

Possible connetquot schools [link]
462.450 CC 1
463.8375 CC 2
464.6375 CC 3
464.9625 CC 1

Possible Freeport schools [link] [link]
463.375 CC 11
463.7875 CC 11
464.5875 CC 11
(463.7875 is also part of the Jetblue cap+ system at JFK but its CC5 and they have no DMR emission [link]

Possible Town of Babylon [link]
453.950 CC 5
460.200 CC 5
472.9625 CC 5

unknown possible "Marcus Spectrum" out of CT [link] [link]
461.4875 CC 5
463.2125 CC 0
Im not sure if a Cap+ freq can have a 0 CC - if not then disregard...








Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Apr 15 2019, 01:22pm

If anyones interested these may be the freqs for the Barclay center - [link]
They may not be running all freqs as a Cap+ system however...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Apr 22 2019, 09:43pm

Heres all the encrypted DMR ive come across -

453,850 CC 6 TG 7200

461.200 CC 1 TG 50 SL 1
461.200 CC 1 TG 51 SL 2

462.225 CC 13 TG 456669 & TG 63453 SL 1

463.6875 CC 2 TG 10001 SL 1
463.6875 CC 2 TG 10006 SL 2

472.9625 CC 5 TG 1000 SL 1 Babylon system [link]

Town of Hempstead public safety is also encrypted on their system [link]
Pretty sure its TG 100

Heard anything on the Newsday freqs yet dave?

I am also getting CC 2 on 478.2875 now
Still to distant or whatever for anything coherent...





Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Mon Apr 22 2019, 10:15pm



Lol Not yet. Kinda pissed as we went out to Democrat point today, and forgot scanner. Then went to look at boat ramps on the north shore, and forgot to stop home and grad the scanner. Was over in Smithtown, Port Jeff and Fort Salonga. Wanted to see if that last set of 700 freqs was in use yet around Port Jeff. And tomorrow looks to be the only nice day out of the week and my little guy wants to learn how to surf cast. I really want to bring the spyverter and long wire and scan for hf but the little guys needs come before mine. I will get over there during the week. I know I used to listen to Nesday ops when I was off. Came in pretty good in East Farmingdale..


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Apr 23 2019, 01:29pm

On the encrypted 463.6875 something happened in the event log called a "Remote dekey"
First time ive seen this

Also im getting what seems to be a Nexedge control channel on 464.24375
Signal was rather weak so did not decode a network ID or RAN
The closest licenses i could find for this freq is either out of Bethpage [link]
or MA [link]



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Apr 25 2019, 12:54pm

More encrypted DMR - 452.5875 CC 7 TG 1 SL 2
I think North Shore EMS is encrypted as well on the Onevoice system

Anyone know if a weak or distant DMR/Nxdn freq can sometimes falsely decode as either or in DSD?


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sat May 04 2019, 09:16pm

Right outside the Coliseum - i got very brief but strong DMR bursts on
461.05
463.4375 and
464.8625

Seeming to be cap+ rest channels
Did not seem to have any voice traffic at the time ...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri May 17 2019, 09:16pm

A few new DMR licenses -
Roosevelt childrens academy [link]
Long island compost [link]
New York Institute of Technology [link]
Nothing on these yet

155.130 NAC 100 - Something about tennis courts

Getting DMR at times on 160.095 CC 14

Got encrypted NXDN on 451.10625 RAN 19 TG 40315 - possibly part of the "Fleetcall" trunk system Monmouth NJ site [link]



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Nawton!, Sat May 18 2019, 12:22am

155.130 NAC 100: This is New Rochelle PD. They recently went P-25.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue May 21 2019, 06:08pm



Thanks

Getting a possible CC of 3 on 452.2125

Also if anyone picks up 452.8625 CC 7 TG 1681001 i have that down as possibly something to do with the railroad but the signal strength varies a bit - due to conditions i suppose so if anyone can tell me the signal strength and location if and when they receive it at i would appreciate it



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Jun 06 2019, 08:21pm

Possible DMR freqs being used by Valley Stream Schools -
451.4625 [link]
462.175
462.225 [link]

Not sure if their running it as a simulcast/trunk system but got a strong DMR signal on all 3 freqs in that area




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sun Jun 09 2019, 01:27pm

Close called DMR on 460.7625 near Republic airport
Most likely WRCX789 [link]


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
PFD Mike, Wed Jun 12 2019, 12:09am

I always get that close call hit by Republic usually more towards the Walmart side.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Jun 25 2019, 01:25pm

From home i get 460.7625 with CC 15
Havent got a TG or anything yet so not sure if related to the airport

I also got DMR on 463.3625 and 463.550 in the Garden City area


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Jun 28 2019, 12:29am

Getting what seems to be a DMR rest channel on 858.3625
I have it down as being possibly WPVR876 "Telecom Communications" out of Suffolk



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Jul 08 2019, 01:12pm

Picking up school buses on 451.10625 RAN 27
Possible Middle Country Central School District


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Jul 10 2019, 12:25pm

Getting DMR CC 12 on 160.125 - i hear a little bit of voice but the TG dosent decode
Skip is good lately so this could be distant

Found a Cap+ system 452.225 CC 4 TG 101
All i heard on this was radio checks


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Jul 29 2019, 09:14pm

Looks like Great Neck Taxi just got a new license for both analog and digital [link] WRDT658

I guess they are thinking of abandoning their old low band license

Wondering how this is going to play out - if its going to be a repeater or if it will be analog and All Island Taxi uses 452.625 as well

Interesting that they also have a few mobile only freqs...



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Aug 06 2019, 12:19pm

Picked up what is apparently a Con+ control channel on 151.5275 coming up as Network ID 138 with a CC 0
However i thought that DMR control channels cannot have a 0 CC ?
Also got what seems to be a rest channel on 151.9175 CC 3
Unsure if the 2 freqs are related





Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
GTR8000, Wed Aug 07 2019, 02:35am

Color Code 0-15 is valid on any Con+ repeater, doesn't matter if it's control or traffic.

Con+ systems do not have rest channels.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Aug 07 2019, 12:11pm

Oh ok - then in that case 151.9175 is most likely not related

Also does anyone know what DMR network L13 is? I got a control channel for that on 451.325


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Aug 07 2019, 05:05pm




Lol, I was on 451.0875 which is Goosetown and it was displaying

2019/08/01 06:50:35 L13-1.3 neighbor: Site L13-2.5; CC=451.325

I sent my event log to GTR8000 and he said that 13 is default net id on many tiii systems. He said there seems to be 2 maybe 3 systems that have that id. Goosetown and Bear Mountain asre 2 of them. He is investigating.

Right now all I get is conventional spanish guys talking on 451.325 so the control channel is not out this way..



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
GTR8000, Wed Aug 07 2019, 06:51pm

Yes, unfortunately L13 is the default NetID for many Tier 3 systems, and it never gets changed. There appear to be a few L13 Tier 3 systems in the tri-state area that are unrelated to each other.

I was able to confirm the other day that Goosetown only has a few sites up as a pilot program, with basically no one actually using the system yet, and none of the frequencies Dave3825us sent me are related to Goosetown. Goosetown's system so far uses frequencies that are either in the 454 MHz block, or are T-Band 472/477/478 blocks.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Aug 14 2019, 01:32am

So i found Network 138
Its a con+ system out of Boston [link]

Must have been some great skip when i picked that up...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Aug 23 2019, 06:01pm

Encrypted DMR on 460.7625 CC 15 TG 70001 SL 1

I have close called DMR on this freq near Republic Airport - but the ENC activity i am picking up from home so not sure if its related


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Sep 11 2019, 12:04pm

151.280 CC 12 TG 16700012 SL 1
463.7375 CC 10 TG 227510 SL 1
Both ENC

451.5125 CC 3 TG 500 SL 1 - Stuff about opening doors...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Sep 11 2019, 12:45pm

I may have found 2 Connect plus systems

461.375 CC 2 Network 143
and
463.6625 CC 5 Network 267

Not sure if these are in the RRDB already or not but i did some searching around the tri state and whatnot but i did not see anything however the RR search does not work well for me...




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
GTR8000, Wed Sep 11 2019, 03:17pm

451.5125 CC 3 TG 500 SL 1 is Saint Joseph University Security in Philly

463.6625 CC 5 Network 267 is a system down in MD: [link]

As for 461.375 CC 2 Network 143, are you sure it wasn't Network 141? There's a site in MD for that system that matches the frequency/CC: [link]

Probably getting some tropo ducting from down there.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Wed Sep 11 2019, 04:33pm

[quote]
451.5125 CC 3 TG 500 SL 1 is Saint Joseph University Security in Philly

463.6625 CC 5 Network 267 is a system down in MD: [link]

As for 461.375 CC 2 Network 143, are you sure it wasn't Network 141? There's a site in MD for that system that matches the frequency/CC: [link]

Probably getting some tropo ducting from down there.
[/quote1568219332]

Interesting - I did not think to check MD yes skip conditions were decent
I usually check NJ/PA/CT and sometimes Mass. if i cant find a match in NY
Thank you

And maybe it was Net 141 i may have just wrote it down in error...




Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sat Feb 15 2020, 10:58pm

Got some DMR hits on 408.3375 near the mail facility in Hicksville
Seemed to be simplex or low power but i do recall hearing something about the USPS may actually start to use DMR a bit

Anyone get anything on this yet? WREP255 "Office Of General Services" [link]
Seems to be a NXDN license at the DMV location in Hauppauge

Also IKEA at the Broadway Mall use the Motorola/Vertex EVX-S24 which is a small portable that is both DMR and analog capable
And they are licensed for DMR on 463.625 and 464.7625 [link] but i havent heard any DMR on either of those





Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Feb 21 2020, 06:16pm

Getting DMR on 453.300 CC 9 TG 690 SL 1

Ok signal - Not sure where this is coming from and the only thing i found even remotely close licensed for digital is Princeton NJ KED993 [link]
And i believe the emission 8K10F1E is specific to P25



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Sat Mar 07 2020, 05:50pm

Close called DMR on 154.100 around Old country road in Westbury
Not sure what that was but at home i can get 154.100 CC 3 TG 1 SL 1 - still not sure what im hearing but seems to be a base calling units and vice versa

Couldnt find anything on LI licensed for DMR on that freq but whats also interesting is that both the base and mobiles seem to have the same exact radio ID...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Mar 09 2020, 01:17pm

Heard someone talking about opening doors to a station and turning off sirens on 453.300 CC 9 TG 690 SL 1
Maybe this is Wantagh or Oakdale fire dept. using DMR on their freqs?
WQQF921 & WPJZ214 [link] [link]

Also heard units calling into base saying starting mileage on 154.100 CC 3 TG 1 SL 1



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
thehawk, Mon Mar 09 2020, 09:00pm

I can tell you for certain that it is not the west sayville fire department. We don't have any radios capable of dmr.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Mon Mar 09 2020, 09:37pm



Thanks alot

And coincidentally the TG " 690 " is the unit # of Wantagh FD - but that may not mean anything...


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Mon Aug 24 2020, 10:46pm

Ran across a freq but not sure who it is. I believe it's here on the island as the skip window closed earlier today. I checked the 2 onevoice sites and the color code does not match. Neither does the amazon freq in New Jersey.

464.0625 DCC=7 RAS Group call; TG=101

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Tue Aug 25 2020, 07:22pm



Quite a few DMR licenses for that freq - a couple hospitals in the city - maybe also part of the Delta airlines system [link] and Good Samaritan hospital in suffolk [link]

Also Reuters in suffolk [link]


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
thehawk, Tue Aug 25 2020, 11:38pm

@dave3825us I can confirm that it is Goodsam hospital in west islip. Whats your listening area so i know how far the signal went.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Aug 26 2020, 02:21am

@thehawk I am Islip terrace near Carlton and Sunrise. Not very strong from what I saw.

@darkstar. I saw that Reuters was granted recently. I added a bunch of new grants to fmp24 scan list and let in run 24/7 and review the event log every now and again. That's the only freq that had activity.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
thehawk, Wed Aug 26 2020, 10:03am

Oh ok. Yea I’m limited to 45 watts transmit power and 20watt erp per the license. Being that the antenna is on the 9th floor roof and an Omni directional with 2.5db gain the signal goes a decent ways away.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
PFD Mike, Thu Aug 27 2020, 03:08am



154.100 is Nassau Community college - Close call in Westbury could be reasonable. I am unaware if they went to DMR.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
PFD Mike, Thu Aug 27 2020, 03:17am

[quote]
Getting DMR on 453.300 CC 9 TG 690 SL 1

Ok signal - Not sure where this is coming from and the only thing i found even remotely close licensed for digital is Princeton NJ KED993 [link]
And i believe the emission 8K10F1E is specific to P25


[/quote1598497913]

I think you're hearing Wantagh FD maintenance channel. I know that they are using DMR and believe CC is 9.

The 690 TG is a nice touch.


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Mar 11 2021, 08:08pm



Confirmed that the Coliseum is using a DMR system
Shows up in DSD as "XPT"

461.050 CC 7
463.4375 CC 5
464.8625 CC 6

Voice on TG 25 and TG 26


Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
GTR8000, Thu Mar 11 2021, 09:00pm

Normally I don't add stuff based on forum posts, but I'm bored so here it is.

[link]

Feel free to submit talkgroups once you have some idea what is going on with them.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Fri Mar 12 2021, 01:39pm

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Normally I don't add stuff based on forum posts, but I'm bored so here it is.

[link]

Feel free to submit talkgroups once you have some idea what is going on with them.
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Lol

At anyone scanning the coliseum, I read the coliseum will be doing vaccines. You may also pick up other systems and or comms because of this.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Fri Mar 12 2021, 03:22pm

Took about 2 years but at least i finally confirmed it
They probably have been using the system since at least then or whenever they rebuilt the barn
Its a rather low power system - you may be able to pick it up around Uniondale thats about it
I had analog 464.8625 PL 136.5 down as being used by the Coliseum i guess from a while ago

I also got DMR on 456.4875 in the area which is licensed as well
Maybe a simplex talk around channel or just a repeater input



Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Darkstar350, Thu Jun 23 2022, 01:36pm

Anyone getting any DMR hits on 800mhz?
Getting some DMR on 861.0625 havent had the chance to grab the CC or anything yet
DMR is rather uncommon on 800mhz in the area so i think i may have narrowed it down to a repeater out of Plainview
WNJU965 - Norcom Communications Corp. [link]

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
Dave3825us, Wed Aug 24 2022, 03:34am

I am going to try the freq out here. Bayshore is listed as a control point.

Re: Digital Voice On Long Island
gita8947, Fri Sep 09 2022, 11:49am

interesting information