PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Mon Mar 30 2020, 05:33pm




Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sat Apr 04 2020, 10:18pm

Also this freq apparently is not transmitting any system/site ID - only the NAC


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Sun Apr 05 2020, 03:49am

What version dsd are you running? Your in central Nassau? I am picking this up in East Islip without an amp and I am using an indoor antenna. Wonder if its virus related.

At the moment I am running and older version but it shows this,




Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Sun Apr 05 2020, 03:59am

Im not getting a great signal but hoping to fix that very soon. Might fire up the amp in the morning..

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sun Apr 05 2020, 11:06am

I think its version 1.101 - its newer than another version i was using for a while but im not sure if its the latest
Probably not

It is a relatively weak signal for me so that could also be why its not decoding the system info


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Sun Apr 05 2020, 08:48pm

Managed to get this for you. I don't have a valid membership at rr.com at the moment but if you do try searching the cc and the voice channels in this pic. I would and might later but my hands are full today.




Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sun Apr 05 2020, 09:24pm

Thanks dave

I did a little searching but havent found any valid license for any of those freqs in the tri state
I was monitoring 935.8125 because it is supposedly part of the Teamconnect DMR system on the Melville site 085 but so far i have only got the P25 activity



Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Sun Apr 05 2020, 09:56pm

Dave, can you please post the DSDPlus.P25data info for this system? Thanks.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Sun Apr 05 2020, 10:14pm

This is all I have it this point. Going to keep it running and might get a second dongle going and let unitrunker sit on it and have trunk record try to catch some voice. Hope its phase 1


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Network: BEE00.982

Bandplan #4: Base=935.0125 Offset=-39 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Bandplan #5: Base=935.0125 Offset=-39 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2


Site: 1.1 NAC=981

Channel 4-128: 935.8125 CC
Channel 4-736: 939.6125 DATA
Channel 4-768: 939.8125 DATA
Channel 5-768: 939.8125-1 VOICE


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Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Mon Apr 06 2020, 01:03am


The band plan and the logged voice channel very clearly indicate that it's Phase II

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Mon Apr 06 2020, 03:12am




Lol had I not been doing 20 things at the same time I might have noticed that. Then again, only had 2 coffees today. Hoping to get this pc and sdr stuff to the upstairs office and get something decent mounted to the chimney. Right now its down stairs while some work is being done upstairs.

Wish I could catch some voice.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Tue Apr 07 2020, 01:52pm

So far I have seen 3 tg's on this with no audio. I now have a temp antenna on my first floor ac unit outside and now the signal is a lot stronger..

All I have managed to catch is a guy saying testing over and over on tg 225 and guy saying audio check on tg 220.


(live 2 minutes west of old apartment and with just a 3 inch piece of coax outside, can receive metro and doitt without needing the lna and moxon)


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Tue Apr 07 2020, 04:21pm

I wonder if this is actually some type of testing for the new PSEG P25 system

If its some radio company just doing testing - then despite having no specific license they can have somewhat of a test license that covers more or less any frequency range
For example [link]


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Tue Apr 07 2020, 08:25pm

COuld also be anywhere in tristate tho I do get it on my 436 with stock antenna.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Thu Apr 09 2020, 01:45pm

Just heard 2 guys talking on tg 220. One was in Eastport and the other in Hicksville. They were talking about a switch that went down and and heard them mention Zetron.

Zetron's website [link]

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Thu Apr 09 2020, 06:20pm

This it what sdrtrunk lists

Activity Summary - Decoder:P25 Phase 1 Normal (C4FM)

Network
NAC:2433 WACN:781824 SYSTEM:2434 LRA:0

Current Site
SYSTEM:2434 SITE:1 RF SUBSYSTEM:1 LOCATION REGISTRATION AREA:0 STATUS:ACTIVE RFSS NETWORK CONNECTION
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:4-128 DOWNLINK:935812500 UPLINK:934837500
CURRENT DATA CHANNEL:15-4095 DOWNLINK:0 UPLINK:0

Neighbor Sites
UNKNOWN
Frequency Bands
BAND:4 FDMA BASE:935012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-975000
BAND:5 TDMA BASE:935012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-39000000 TIMESLOTS:2


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Thu Apr 09 2020, 10:09pm

I've confirmed that SysID 982 is PSEG Long Island.

I don't know why the hell they're using unlicensed frequencies, but it's definitely them.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Thu Apr 09 2020, 10:16pm

Enjoy: [link]

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Thu Apr 09 2020, 10:40pm

Interesting

I tried to search and see if i could find if they had any 900mhz "blanket" licenses but theres literally over a thousand
I will search some more if i get the chance

For what its worth the power company FirstEnergy tends to use P25 systems as well...


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Thu Apr 09 2020, 11:03pm

Found it [link]

Turns out they are leasing freqs from PDV/Teamconnect after all...


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Fri Apr 10 2020, 12:16am

Good catch. That YD license also explains why we can't find any site-specific licenses for PDV/TeamConnect.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
w2lie, Fri Apr 10 2020, 02:06am

Getting some radio tests on the system tonight from RID 50005 on the following talk groups:
211, 221, 224, and 550

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Fri Apr 10 2020, 03:55am

Founf this also [link] KNNX647 is on the list.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Fri Apr 17 2020, 12:17am

Anyone know if this system seems to be simulcast or patched with the PSEG analog freqs?
Havent heard any voice on the system yet and Im still hearing activity on 158.175/220

I also think that this is transmitting from somewhere in suffolk as i get a rather weak signal on this system however 900mhz reception is not the best in my area


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Fri May 22 2020, 07:23pm

New York Utility Gets 900 MHz Waiver for P25 Phase 2 System: [link]

Hey Phil, can you update the title of this thread so it'll stand out better as being about PSEG's new system?

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Mon Jun 01 2020, 07:15pm

Not picking up a control channel today. Can anyone confirm a cc online at the moment?

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Tue Jun 09 2020, 01:46pm

Found the cc and a few new freqs

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Network: BEE00.982

Bandplan #4: Base=935.0125 Offset=-39 Spacing=6.25 BW=12.5
Bandplan #5: Base=935.0125 Offset=-39 Spacing=12.5 BW=12.5 Slots=2


Site: 1.1 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME

Channel 4-28: 935.1875 BSI
Channel 4-68: 935.4375 CC
Channel 4-128: 935.8125 SCC
Channel 4-142: 935.9 SCC
Channel 4-154: 935.975 DATA
Channel 5-154: 935.975-1 VOICE
Channel 5-155: 935.975-2 VOICE
Channel 4-186: 936.175 DATA
Channel 5-186: 936.175-1 VOICE
Channel 5-187: 936.175-2 VOICE
Channel 4-736: 939.6125 SCC
Channel 4-768: 939.8125 DATA
Channel 5-768: 939.8125-1 VOICE


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Tue Jun 09 2020, 10:52pm

Must be some of the new freqs they were just granted - [link] [link] [link]


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
GTR8000, Wed Jun 10 2020, 01:22am

935.8125, 939.6125, 939.8125 are not yet licensed or pending under YI licenses. Perhaps in time they'll pop up.

Nice thing about the new per-site YI licenses is that we now have a good site map of the entire system. Whether all sites are online remains to be determined.

[link]

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
LIScanner101, Thu Aug 06 2020, 07:27pm

I tried to record every PSE&G analog frequency as well as their TRS system over the last couple days. I got bupkus. Can anyone tell me what PSE&G is really using now for lineman trucks in the field???

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Fri Aug 07 2020, 12:55am

I havent heard much activity on this system at all in general

If there is more activity then it must be on the air more so in Suffolk because i didnt hear anything during the storm

I still do hear activity on 158.160 158.175 158.220 and 173.300


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Fri Aug 07 2020, 12:04pm

Had all my dongles tuned to public safety but last week there was decent daily chatter on tg's 220 and 550. Last night I left it running and all that was seen was a bunch of group in use entries. Not one group call like what was being seen last week. Not sure who uses this system but I don't think they are 24/7.

I am also not that far from their Central Islip corporate office and believe I have received them even with the 800 mhz antenna am using now. But so far this morning I have not heard a single transmission.

This is the antenna set up in Central Islip on Carlton Ave via google street view

[link]

Its 8 am now and not one peep on the p25 system. Strange
From last night,

020/08/06 22:14:24 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Current site: 1.1
2020/08/06 22:14:25 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Current network: BEE00.982 PSEG
2020/08/06 22:14:25 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Current site: BEE00.982-1.1
2020/08/06 22:14:44 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 22:20:16 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=10244
2020/08/06 22:44:44 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 23:02:27 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20113
2020/08/06 23:09:34 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=10128
2020/08/06 23:14:43 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 23:19:34 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group call rejection; TG=65533 RID=10086 Reason=unknown[C0]
2020/08/06 23:20:25 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20003
2020/08/06 23:28:33 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20078
2020/08/06 23:35:06 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=50721
2020/08/06 23:39:35 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20094
2020/08/06 23:42:28 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20026
2020/08/06 23:44:44 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 23:45:11 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20125
2020/08/06 23:54:40 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20107
2020/08/07 00:13:30 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Checking for updates
2020/08/07 00:13:30 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 You are running the most recent copy of DSD+
2020/08/07 00:14:43 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/07 00:18:35 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20014
2020/08/07 00:24:50 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20059
2020/08/07 00:30:13 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20104
2020/08/07 00:32:16 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20106
2020/08/07 00:44:43 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/07 01:05:48 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20114

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Fri Aug 07 2020, 02:09pm

Have the scanner on and fire depts are busy again today with wires down, trees on fire and transformer fires. Been running the p25 system and only 3 calls seen in OP25. Even tho there are many out of state linesmen here on the island, in addition the the PSEG workers, one would think there would be a more PSEG activity on the uhf\vhf freqs. Only vhf I heard was on 158.160 Pseg Dispatch and Operations and that was disp giving directions to an address.

Many of the linesmen I have seen from out of state have antenna on their trucks. The freqs they use are licensed to their area. Wonder if when they are out of state, are they allowed to use their radios?

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
LIScanner101, Fri Aug 07 2020, 05:55pm



I fully agree that PSE&G activity has been minimal at best. You would think it would be nonstop. I ran my scanner again last night in record mode and only got the same thing you picked up: 158.16, just a couple of times.

AFA the out of state trucks go, I would imagine that they have different frequencies in their radios than what Long Island uses, so they wouldn’t be able to interact locally. However, they must be getting their orders and directives from SOMEONE, that’s a puzzle.


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
LIScanner101, Fri Aug 07 2020, 06:00pm

[quote]
Had all my dongles tuned to public safety but last week there was decent daily chatter on tg's 220 and 550. Last night I left it running and all that was seen was a bunch of group in use entries. Not one group call like what was being seen last week. Not sure who uses this system but I don't think they are 24/7.

I am also not that far from their Central Islip corporate office and believe I have received them even with the 800 mhz antenna am using now. But so far this morning I have not heard a single transmission.

This is the antenna set up in Central Islip on Carlton Ave via google street view

[link]

Its 8 am now and not one peep on the p25 system. Strange
From last night,

020/08/06 22:14:24 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Current site: 1.1
2020/08/06 22:14:25 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Current network: BEE00.982 PSEG
2020/08/06 22:14:25 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Current site: BEE00.982-1.1
2020/08/06 22:14:44 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 22:20:16 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=10244
2020/08/06 22:44:44 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 23:02:27 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20113
2020/08/06 23:09:34 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=10128
2020/08/06 23:14:43 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 23:19:34 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group call rejection; TG=65533 RID=10086 Reason=unknown[C0]
2020/08/06 23:20:25 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20003
2020/08/06 23:28:33 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20078
2020/08/06 23:35:06 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=50721
2020/08/06 23:39:35 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20094
2020/08/06 23:42:28 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20026
2020/08/06 23:44:44 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/06 23:45:11 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20125
2020/08/06 23:54:40 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20107
2020/08/07 00:13:30 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Checking for updates
2020/08/07 00:13:30 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 You are running the most recent copy of DSD+
2020/08/07 00:14:43 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/07 00:18:35 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20014
2020/08/07 00:24:50 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20059
2020/08/07 00:30:13 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20104
2020/08/07 00:32:16 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20106
2020/08/07 00:44:43 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 BSI=CHANGEME Ch=935.1875
2020/08/07 01:05:48 Freq=935.437500 NAC=981 Group In Use; Tgt=20114
[/quote1596823085]

Sorry, I’m not a DSD user so I’m not familiar some of the jargon being used here. When you say “Group in Use”, does that mean a radio is affiliated with the system but nobody is talking, or are you actually hearing people talk?


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sat Aug 08 2020, 12:58am



You got the activity only on 158.160? Because there has been plenty of activity on 158.175 and 158.220 as well
153.710 and 158.235 are more electric ops freqs but i think those may be used more so in eastern suffolk
Pretty sure they still use 100.0 PL for all their freqs

As far as out of state goes - look for some freqs for "Pike Electric"
Pike electric is known to give mutual aid to various states during storms
They mostly use lowband freqs around 49mhz
49.46 49.54 and 49.58 with 67.0 PL
It also wouldnt hurt to plug in a few "dot/star" itinerant freqs such as 464/469.500 464/469.550 and whatnot during storms

I think the plan is to have the 900mhz system be setup for mutual aid and perhaps link it to the NJ system eventually but time will tell with that...



Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Sat Aug 08 2020, 04:42am

Only traffic I heard was 158.160 in a 2 hour span then I had to leave the house for a while. Disp was loud and clear and did not hear field unit. At the moment my only antenna is cut for 800mhz.

I found freqs listed in fcc that are licensed to pseg that are not in the db and stuck them in also. Most were uhf but not any hits.

When I asked about out of state help, I meant are they (the out of state guys) allowed to talk to each other (the out of state guys) on the their freqs? Their freqs that are licensed to where ever they are from? Just wondering if there are rules .


Todays 900 mhz p25 counts
tg 550 7
tg 220 2
tg 228 8

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sat Aug 08 2020, 05:40pm

Also may be worth a shot to try some of the 900mhz itinerant freqs during storms and whatnot - [link]


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
PFD Mike, Thu Aug 13 2020, 11:16am

I'm thinking searching VHF. Even low band wouldn't be out of the question.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Fri Aug 14 2020, 12:03am



PSEG seems to be still using their usual VHF channels for the most part
They have low band freqs licensed but i dont think they use them but you never know [link]
The trucks tend to have long whip antennas on them

I also heard that the frequency 37.60 is somewhat of a nationwide interop freq for utility companies

On another note i got activity on 154.490 D664 a few days ago
Its another one of those simplex/itinerant freqs - possibly licensed to First Energy [link]


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Mon Oct 12 2020, 02:18pm

Testing today with team 1 and team 2 on tg 211 212 and 213.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Mon Oct 12 2020, 02:37pm

Kinda weird same rids keep keying up doing checks but they have the same rid for portable and mobile.

And each time they id with a different mobile/portable, its the same rid as the last pair of radios.


2039 mobile counts 12345 rid 10289
2039 portable counts 12345 rid 10289

2014 portable counts 12345 rid 10289
2014 mobile counts 12345 rid 10289



Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Tue Oct 13 2020, 10:16pm



So is it the system still more or less only being used for testing?
I still just pick up the control channel for now - havent got any voice yet


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Wed Oct 14 2020, 11:32am

It was stated on rr that it was starting to become active but I have not really been following it much. I was hearing repair related calls the day I posted about the testing.



Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Thu Oct 15 2020, 07:48pm



Do you recall what locations the repair dispatch was for?


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Dave3825us, Fri Oct 16 2020, 11:26am

Heard them talk about a pole down on Middle Country road. Not sure if Nass has a Middle Country road or not but I know Suff does.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sat Oct 17 2020, 05:54pm



Oh ok
So most of the coverage is still in Suffolk - for now


Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Fri Oct 30 2020, 02:27pm

Got a few hits on TG 401 - audio was garbled so i didnt really understand anything but its the first time i got TG activity



Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
kb2kmm, Mon Nov 30 2020, 03:55pm

A lot of activity today. Multiple service/repair calls. Also "Team" units doing lots of portable & mobile radio checks on 211, 212 & 213. Radio techs checking radios prior to install? Looks like they are getting ready to ramp-up usage of this system.

300 repair activity Plainview. Much less activity on this TG as compared to the next 3 listed. Guessing they are still deploying radios to this Division.
401 repair activity Remesenburg (Town of Southhampton ).
500 repair activity Edgemere, Far Rockaway, Cedarhurst, Roosevelt, Long Beach & Elmont
550 repair activity Bayshore, East Farmingdale & Saint James
Just trying to figure out what talkgroups are what.

Here's my list of TG's heard by me & compiled from the thread so far:
211 212 213 220 221 224 225 228 300 401 500 550

Going to tag these TG's as the following for now (pending further info):
211, 212, 213 Radio Techs
300 Service Central Nassau
401 Service East Suffolk
500 Service Queens/Nassau
550 Service West Suffolk

PSEG LI Divison Map: [link]

The system reception here in North Babylon is excellent. With 436HP sitting on desk with stock antenna I'm getting zero error rate.

Re: PSEG 900 MHz P25 TRS
Darkstar350, Sun Dec 06 2020, 03:11am

This system seems to be getting a bit more active - possibly to do with all the wind and rain we have had recently
Hearing less activity on their old analog freqs also

Getting the most hits on TG 401 as well as TG 550 so far