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Print View Posted: Thu Sep 23 2021, 01:58pm
Posted by: Dave3825usPosts: 1219
Old Display Name: Dave
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I never heard this before but caught FRES doing roll call with depts last night. From Melville to Yaphank. All divisions it seemed. It was also in analog.

453.86250 156.7 UTAC43/43D UTAC43 - Tactical




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Posted: Thu Sep 23 2021, 09:55pm
Posted by: thehawkPosts: 134
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Fres was conducting a test of the county's interoperable communications abilities using the national interoperable channels. All departments west of suffolk fire rescue were to participate. The paper work also says east end interoperable channels will be rolled out with east end uhf paging in the near future. I had found out about it after the fact.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30 2021, 04:45pm
Posted by: RADIOTECHPosts: 386
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Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Does anybody know the new frequency FRES secured for UHF Paging East?
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Posted: Fri Oct 01 2021, 12:38am
Posted by: thehawkPosts: 134
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I see 463.1875 listed on the same license that the original uhf east frequency is on. all locations are out east with 10,000 units paging. Also the buildout deadline was 9-21-21. WQUZ568 is the callsign. I'm not out that direction so I doubt I would be able to pick anything up. If someone out east could monitor and give an update if is or becomes active.
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Posted: Fri Oct 01 2021, 01:21pm
Posted by: RADIOTECHPosts: 386
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Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Sounds right. FRES was able to get an unused UHF Med channel, so that freq makes sense. Thanks
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Posted: Mon Oct 04 2021, 07:44pm
Posted by: EastIslipFD161Posts: 29
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So fres east is now 463.1875 not 453.8750?
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Posted: Tue Oct 05 2021, 01:20am
Posted by: thehawkPosts: 134
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Its just speculation at this point. We need someone out east to confirm if that is the new uhf east frequency or not.
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Posted: Tue Oct 05 2021, 03:50pm
Posted by: Dave3825usPosts: 1219
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thehawk wrote ...

Its just speculation at this point. We need someone out east to confirm if that is the new uhf east frequency or not.



While I cant confirm its use, I can confirm I just heard tones followed by, "Fire Rescue Base, Testing, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Signal was a little weak but received in Islip Terrace.

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Posted: Tue Oct 05 2021, 11:56pm
Posted by: RADIOTECHPosts: 386
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Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Anyone catch a PL?

This will be the paging for FD's east of the William Floyd Pkwy.

I think they were getting too much interference w/Nassau Firecom on 453.875, which is why they switched. I think if they would have put a PL code on the freq, they would have been ok.
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Posted: Thu Oct 07 2021, 04:03am
Posted by: GTR8000Posts: 190
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RADIOTECH wrote ...

Anyone catch a PL?

This will be the paging for FD's east of the William Floyd Pkwy.

I think they were getting too much interference w/Nassau Firecom on 453.875, which is why they switched. I think if they would have put a PL code on the freq, they would have been ok.

A PL only masks the problem, it doesn't solve it.

If anything, it's worse PL'd, because you may be getting interference from Nassau and might not even know it, resulting in degraded coverage. And of course there's the issue of Minitor pagers not being PL capable, so it really wouldn't matter if the transmitters are PL'd, the receivers are not and would pick up everything.

Frequency coordination for Suffolk to license 453.875 should've never happened in the first place. Not nearly enough geographic separation between the two simulcast cells, certainly not on such a flat expanse of land such as Long Island is.

Fix the issue by getting a new frequency...end of story.
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